Since Klopp came to Liverpool, the only game worse than this one -- from an xG perspective -- was the City match in 2017 when Mane got red-carded at the beginning of the match. This was worse. Eesh. If you're gonna lose, I guess, you might as well REALLY LOSE. Anyway, I had a lot of fun today despite, uh, you know. Thanks all for joining in and for reading. We'll do it again soon!
Gonna wrap up in a few -- just looking up a stat for you guys. Is this proof that I should A) never do another chat, or B) literally do a chat for every game for every team for the rest of the season?
I feel like we all need to take a moment to appreciate this sentiment: Divock Origi, Adam Lallana, and Dejan Lovren have 25 minutes to salvage the longest winning streak in Premier League history.
have been a liverpool fan for more than 12 years. that last game to clinch the title (assuming coronavirus doesn’t ruin the season) will probably be a nirvana-like experience for me. but in the meantime i’m including liverpool games in parlay bets just to make them a little bit more tense for me 😂
The funny -- I'm not mad, I'm honestly just laughing -- part of this is that the result matters WAY MORE Watford. Hell of a run for LFC, though. Best game anyone has played against them in years. No undefeated season, but the points record -- which, after all, is THE point of the game -- is still attainable and probably likely.
OK! One theory I do have which is not being unproven by this match: Liverpool struggle against teams with athletic, rangy midfielders. See: Napoli, Atletico, Watford.
I think it's time for Liverpool fans to take a deeeeeeep breath. No team plays well every game. They throttled West Ham, and Atletico-on-the-road-in-the-CL is about as tough as it gets.
Yikes. This is awful -- both for Deulofeu and for Watford's chances to stay up. He's the best attacker on the team: first in xG+xA per 90 among consistent starters.
Is there a source for XG stats for players in the Championship (fbref doesn't have)? Rhian Brewster's goal return has been decent for Swansea but curious as to whether the goals match the underlying performance.
Liverpool have never created a lower amount of expected goals than the .20 from this match in any premier league match going through Understat's database that starts from 2014/15. This isn't just a loss, it's a complete collapse by an otherwise historic side.
This just shows how amazing their season has been. Many a game where they could’ve lost or drawn but their class won out in the end. Sure, the odd lucky bounce here and there too but then every title winning side gets those. To have their absurd points total just shouldn’t be possible.
Are we sure Atleti loss hasn’t gotten to the lads and Klopp? Seemingly untouchable until the 1-0 defeat. Only half kidding - they’ve lost that aura of invincibility and other sides will fancy having a go at them. Simeone is a proper GIT
It feels like Liverpool are a team super-dependent on being in rhythm. They've been sloppier and had less urgency starting games since the break. Didn't the draws down the stretch last season come after they trained abroad for a bit?
Let's hear your best overreaction theory for why Liverpool looked like shit in the first half. Two of mine:
1) Jordan Henderson is actually the best player in the league.
2) Dejan Lovren is actually the worst player in the league.
If anyone needs me to ruin a supposedly fun thing, let me know. I'll just schedule a chat during it.
Since Klopp came to Liverpool, the only game worse than this one -- from an xG perspective -- was the City match in 2017 when Mane got red-carded at the beginning of the match. This was worse. Eesh. If you're gonna lose, I guess, you might as well REALLY LOSE. Anyway, I had a lot of fun today despite, uh, you know. Thanks all for joining in and for reading. We'll do it again soon!
Gonna wrap up in a few -- just looking up a stat for you guys. Is this proof that I should A) never do another chat, or B) literally do a chat for every game for every team for the rest of the season?
This is pretty wild. Can't remember Liverpool playing this poorly (without a red card) since Klopp came to town. https://understat.com/match/11921
I feel like we all need to take a moment to appreciate this sentiment: Divock Origi, Adam Lallana, and Dejan Lovren have 25 minutes to salvage the longest winning streak in Premier League history.
Hey guys! Liverpool are -220 to break the PL win-streak record.
Just wanna share that I was at West Ham-Liverpool for my first Anfield match ever!
Sarr and Deeney are going to be the inaugural entries to the Premier League's Hall of Fame by a majority vote from every other club.
have been a liverpool fan for more than 12 years. that last game to clinch the title (assuming coronavirus doesn’t ruin the season) will probably be a nirvana-like experience for me. but in the meantime i’m including liverpool games in parlay bets just to make them a little bit more tense for me 😂
The funny -- I'm not mad, I'm honestly just laughing -- part of this is that the result matters WAY MORE Watford. Hell of a run for LFC, though. Best game anyone has played against them in years. No undefeated season, but the points record -- which, after all, is THE point of the game -- is still attainable and probably likely.
I'm still not convinced Liverpool won't come back ...
My brain has been broken by the Internet, but I'm dreading the inevitable "Is something wrong with Liverpool?" articles that are on the way.
Sarr was pretty good in the first game between these two, btw: https://understat.com/match/11808
Lovren starting and Lallana first man off the bench -- it's amazing this team hasn't lost in over a year.
[Klopp furiously trying to sub in Alberto Moreno only to realize he's no longer on the team]
Welp, payback for when Sarr completely whiffed on a 7-outta-10 chance in the first match!
OK! One theory I do have which is not being unproven by this match: Liverpool struggle against teams with athletic, rangy midfielders. See: Napoli, Atletico, Watford.
It seems like Lovren has moved ahead of Matip on the LFC depth chart. Very weird, imo.
I think it's time for Liverpool fans to take a deeeeeeep breath. No team plays well every game. They throttled West Ham, and Atletico-on-the-road-in-the-CL is about as tough as it gets.
Jesus.
Yikes. This is awful -- both for Deulofeu and for Watford's chances to stay up. He's the best attacker on the team: first in xG+xA per 90 among consistent starters.
Will Liverpool ever take a shot?
Please do an Emergency Pod with Jack
If Milner somehow made the Hall of Fame through the soccer equivalent of counting stats, what jersey would he wear?
Prediction: Origi comes off the bench to score the winner
What do you think Elton John's preferred formation is? And could he coach Watford out of the relegation zone?
Is there a source for XG stats for players in the Championship (fbref doesn't have)? Rhian Brewster's goal return has been decent for Swansea but curious as to whether the goals match the underlying performance.
Liverpool have never created a lower amount of expected goals than the .20 from this match in any premier league match going through Understat's database that starts from 2014/15. This isn't just a loss, it's a complete collapse by an otherwise historic side.
Fuck United
This just shows how amazing their season has been. Many a game where they could’ve lost or drawn but their class won out in the end. Sure, the odd lucky bounce here and there too but then every title winning side gets those. To have their absurd points total just shouldn’t be possible.
Anyone catch the All or Nothing series on amazon on the Seleçao? Ederson seems a proper tit
If you took Watford to not only win but win by 3-0 scoreline pretty sure the payout was like +15,000
Are we sure Atleti loss hasn’t gotten to the lads and Klopp? Seemingly untouchable until the 1-0 defeat. Only half kidding - they’ve lost that aura of invincibility and other sides will fancy having a go at them. Simeone is a proper GIT
Bloody hell. Klopp out
I’ve lost me months wages on this match
Minamino to the rescue!
Bloody hell I Lost 300 quid on this shower of shite
We outchea doe
Somehow 2-0 still wouldn't be enough for Watford to escape the relegation zone.
They need one...but they’re playing like absolute ass
Time for Netherlands Wijnaldum to show up
#Kloppout
this is a good preview of the champions league match, at least
It feels like Liverpool are a team super-dependent on being in rhythm. They've been sloppier and had less urgency starting games since the break. Didn't the draws down the stretch last season come after they trained abroad for a bit?
This game just screams Origi 87th minute winner.
Why doesn’t the premier league use a cart like American sports? Carrying someone off seems I don’t know. Risky?
Who would you give the Will Fuller award to on Liverpool?
shit that's his knee done
LFC looking so sloppy last few games. Makes me think Atleti got in their heads a bit